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your probably right but im trying to sell wheel bearing grease here.
The other thing is that we did not keep track as well of the numbers of people who had dementia. My dear grandmother was pretty sharp into her nineties and then declined significantly. Her family and her nursing home considered her senile. She never made it into the dementia statistics, but today she certainly would.
We have both more people who live long enough for dementia to develop and much better ways of tracking the number of dementia cases. Of course we are going to hear more about it!
dementia has been classified as a fatal disease in only the last couple of years. i think its because science is understanding how organ failure and digestive / immune difficulties are directly linked to brain function..
coconut oil has about as much scientific basis as wheel bearing grease but wheel bearing grease is cheaper..
Also, we now know that overall inflammation is the cause of nearly all chronic diseases, and is caused by dietary issues. Acidic foods are implicated ( as opposed to alkaline) in that inflammation. There is also widespread use of aspartame (artificial sweetener) which is highly neurotoxic. In the book mentioned above, there are countless references to studies indicating statins (cholesterol lowering medications) in neurological disorders and specifically cognitive dysfunction. These drugs are prescribed like candy, for "hypercholesterolemia", which is not a disease, but a lab result. The brain and nervous system need cholesterol to function well, and I believe this too is a cause of the dementia epidemic we are facing
The other heating practice that can change the nature of the oil is reheating it repeatedly, such as re-using it multiple times in a deep fryer. This change (according to a study published in WebMed) occurs with coconut oil as well as other oils. Don't reuse your oil!
Rancid fats are problematic, too. Coconut oil lasts better than many oils before it becomes rancid. Don't use rancid oil! (And, yikes, unless your nose doesn't work, I cannot imagine using a rancid oil. Gag.)
You can use most oils without worry unless you are heating them to the smoking point or reheating them as in a deep fryer, or using them after they are rancid.
Nothing against coconut oil, for sure. But I'd like to see the whole picture presented a little more accurately.
I've been reading a bit your discussion on coconut oil and i've heard about using for other conditions too. But I've always wondered how you would consume it. Do you just eat a tsp of it??? or melt it and add it to something or use it to cook with ?. my hubby likes to use it for making popcorn...lol does that count. my mom has Alz and we are willing to try anything and everything to slow down the progression.
It's good to see someone with your perspective writing here.
If anyone has seen films like "Escape from New York" or Mel Gibson's "Mad Max" series, then you've seen a portrayal of a broken-down society where certain areas are a lawless free-for-all. That's pretty much the way I see our current health practices. IMO, somewhere down the line, maybe 50, 100, or 200 years from now, we will look back at this period as a time of insanely barbaric ignorance.
Medical research has been CO-OPTED and CORRUPTED by Big Pharma. That is beyond a doubt.
Here's a sample illustrating the problem from Science Daily in January 2008:
"Anti-Alzheimer's Mechanism In Omega-3 Fatty Acids Found"
"Many Alzheimer's researchers have long touted fish oil, by pill or diet, as an accessible and inexpensive "weapon" that may delay or prevent this debilitating disease. Now, UCLA scientists have confirmed that fish oil is indeed a deterrent against Alzheimer's, and they have identified the reasons why."
... "the omega-3 fatty acid docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) found in fish oil increases the production of LR11, a protein that is found at reduced levels in Alzheimer's patients and which is known to destroy the protein that forms the "plaques" associated with the disease."
and here's the key...
"But he (Dr. Cole) is hopeful that the NIH will conduct a large-scale prevention clinical trial using fish oil at the earliest stages of the disease -- particularly because it is UNLIKELY that a pharmaceutical company will do so, since fish oil in pill form is readily available and inexpensive.
So, Alzheimer's is big, it's obviously important, but key research into nutrient-based prevention is something for which we can only HOPE. Meanwhile drug research goes on like wildfire.
Let's think about part of our "cultural wisdom" - "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". Is that the way medical research shapes up today? A 16 to 1 ratio in favor of prevention?
How about Thomas Edison?
He stated that "The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest her or his patients in the care of the human frame, in a proper diet, and in the cause and prevention of disease.” Looks like he had no idea how far off "the future" would be.
It's preposterous that we spend so much on drug research when we haven't even mastered the ABC's of good health. You mentioned that "the soil was far less contaminated with artificial fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides, industrial pollutants, acid rain, etc". That might correspond to the letter 'M'. "Naturally occuring vitamins, minerals, and natural enzymes" might be letter 'N'. And so on.
Now, consider the statement, "Proper functioning of the lymphatic system is a cornerstone of good health, yet it is often over-looked by Western medicine." How can something as straightforward as "the basic plumbing system" be overlooked? How about, "In Europe, Lymphatic Drainage Therapy is frequently performed prior to radiation or surgery to prevent the complication of lymphedema."? Is Europe part of a different planet?
We really need to attack the basics of health with an engineering mentality. How does this system truly work?
Anyway, I could go on forever, but I won't. I'll just say that IMO medical science should have listened to Edison. By now we would each have a wonderful "Owner's Manual" for the human body, instead of the random half-assed guidelines we may or may not make up for ourselves.
But despite all that, I see a lot of wonderful signs that the times are changing, and I am optimistic that we are going to get back on track.
I am curious! I seen coconut oil at walmart and its not expensive. Maybe I'll get some on Monday after moms dr appointment. I was thinking of starting a discussion thread on here to track moms progress good or not or maybe an outside site blog. Mom eats a pretty good diet(pureed). Everything I feed her because of low food intake is healthy. So if this oil does help it shouldn't matter what stage of Dementia your in.Though chances of later stage improvement might be slim or slight. I am going to experiment with a open mind. Since mom is bad cognitively I would notice any improvement. I am not going to let my mind use the wonderful "power of suggestion" I am going into this with no expectations.
I am NOT trying to disprove Carol. I just want to see it for myself. I will let everyone here know when I start.
Talk about a brain teaser. Daddy used to say "When in doubt, find out. Don't jump to conclusions."
Gotta go pump up. See y'all later.
-- Ed
My husband’s story is somewhat similar. His diagnosis is Dementia with Lewy Bodies, and he dove into it at the deep end. He had sudden onset of very severe symptoms 8 years ago – cognitive decline, memory problems, paranoia, hallucinations, mobility issues, frequent falls – it was terrible. These started in June and by October he was in a wheelchair. His cognitive test result the first time he went to Mayo clinic was 7 out of 38. I’ve just looked through the annual records from Mayo, and other years the test results were 33, 30, 35. This year it was 29.
He still has dementia. He did not return to “normal” as Bruce did, but he bowls each week, he is very high functioning, and has a decent quality of life. Most importantly, instead of needing 24/7 care of a skilled nursing facility he is doing fine at home. I say that we’ve had 7 years of early dementia, and 1 year of advanced dementia, and the advanced year came first!
If I had been doing something deliberate or unusual in those first dreadful months, like giving him rhubarb juice daily or soaking his feet in Epson salts, or giving him lard spread on Wonder bread, or holding a crystal pyramid over his head and reciting an incantation, or feeding him coconut oil, you’d better believe I would give it credit and that I would still be doing it. But we did nothing of the kind.
Catchlab is correct that at this time dementia is progressive and irreversible. And yet, Carol, you and I have experience of apparent reversal or partial reversal of apparent dementia. (My husband is not the only person in the Mayo study that this has happened to.)
Wow, huh? How can that be? Nobody truly knows. (Researchers now have some theories in cases like my husband’s.) In Bruce’s case, it might indeed be coconut oil that makes the difference. That doesn’t account for our case. Whatever is behind these “miraculous” improvements, I hope science can identify it (or probably more than one it) and use it to help other dementia victims.
Until then, I am truly grateful for our partial reprieve.
And I don’t think that our unusual experiences really answer why we hear about more cases of dementia today than we did in the past.
If there are more, orangeblossom5's observations about cultural changes in attitudes toward the elderly and the dispersal of family geographically seems logical and compelling. But it breaks down as I try to apply it to the cases I know. Our 5 children lived within easy driving distance when their dad was struck with dementia. There was no estrangement. We did family things together. He was active socially and mentally. He enjoyed retirement. He did not feel useless or disregarded. That explanation just doesn't fly for him. Dr. Thomas Graboys (Life in the Balance) was at the pinacle of a highly regarded career in cardiology when he was struck with Parkinson's with Dementia. There is no indication in his book that he was estranged from his family or had feelings of lack of worth. The societal explanation offered by orangeblossom5 is interesting, but it just doesn't seem to match the celebrity cases we all know about or the private cases I hear about in my caregiver support group.
Those of you who are caregiving someone with dementia -- do those societal changes fit the situation of your loved one?
Catchlab, You say "most people would agree that coconut oil does not cure dementia nor does dementia get healed spontaneously by anything. At this time, it is progressive and irreversible." There are a few hundred people in this area, including doctors and nurses, who would have to disagree with you after watching my husband get worse and worse until he had cognitive skills of 11 out of 30 and then suddenly "get healed spontaneously". So stick to your story if that is what you wish to do, and I'll stick to mine because I am an eye witness to the fact.
I've read that if you live to be 80 your chances of developing dementia are 50/50. Yikes, I hope that isn't true. But let's just use that as a discussion point.
I spent some time looking for population of the US by age.
population age 80 and older
In 1900 : 373,847 (less than .05% of the population)
In 1950 : under 2 million (I had to estimate from graphs)
In 2000: 9,184,954 (more than 6% of the population)
I came across a couple of sites with neat animated graphs that showed age groups as portions of the total population and how they shifted from decade to decade in the last century. Oh my stars! The aging of our population is staggering seen that way.
Many people, of course, develop dementia before they are 80. (My husband was 77.) But just using the 50/50 prediction and age 80, assume for a minute that dementia has not been increasing but has held steady. (We don't really know, one way or the other, since we only have recent statistics to look at.)
That would mean in 1900, less than 200,000 cases of dementia ("senility") existed in the US, and no one was particularly keeping track of them.
In 1950, less than 1,000,000 cases existed, and we still were not accurately diagnosing or tracking them.
In 2000, about 4.5 million cases existed, and they had all kinds of publicity, research, fund-raising, and public awareness focussed on them.
Why do we hear of more cases now? It may not because there really are more, proportionately. For all we know, dementia might be decreasing (I doubt it, but we have no proof.)
With the population much, much larger, and more importantly, with the portion of the population within the age range of typical onset of dementia increasing even faster, how could we not hear more about this devastating disease?
As far as the apples are concerned, I do wish we could go back to the original strains, but that is not the same as what they have done with canola.
But this is not what we are discussing here, and all I want to do is explain my own and my husband's experience. It could be that he was miraculously healed of dementia and the coconut oil is just a coincidence. It was a miracle either way.
Linus Pauling was a bigger and more credible proponent of vitamin C than Adele Davis, wasn't he? That didn't make him right, especially for your family.
Do you think it is OK to monkey around and develop new strains of apples (mmm honeycrisp) but not ok to come up with new plants to produce salad oil?
I think our brains are our greatest natural resource, and the ingenuity we come up with to feed ourselves is pretty remarkable. That we often don't get it exactly right doesn't surprise me -- hey, we are human -- but not all of our efforts are counter productive. I'm pretty happy to drink pasteurized milk -- thanks Louis -- but I know there are others who think we'd be better off drinking it raw. Isn't it great that we have so many choices and can usually follow our own preferences and beliefs?
When German neurologist Fritz Heinrich Lewy identified clumps of what turned out to be microscopic deposits of alpha-synuclein protein in the autopsied brains of persons with Parkinson's disease a hundred years ago, I don't think he was looking at the result of too much canola oil or skim milk.
But, since no one knows the exact causes of dementia pathologies, speculation as to whether and why it has increased is wide open and interesting.
You are right that different people react different ways to different foods.
But the one thing that I have seen to be true across the board is that when we try to improve upon the original, we mess things up. Margarine never held a candle to butter, the scientifically altered canola oil does a lot of damage that olive oil never did; forcing ourselves into a low fat diet by eating only egg whites and not the yolks; or drinking milk that has been stripped of its natural fats and enzymes instead of straight from the cow; or isolating parts of a food and turning it into supplements or even sugar, never works as well as the way God created the food to be eaten in the first place. The more man plays around with our food sources the worse our health becomes.
My husband participated (as a subject) in a huge international lipid study, for 9 years. We followed the "heart healthy" diet through that period.
In that 4+ decades I've come to some conclusions.
~ The human body is amazingly adaptable and can get by on eating meat, not eating meat, eating nuts, never having access to nuts, eating earth worms, eating fruits native to the person's habitat, eating fruits from far away, etc. etc. etc. Truly amazing.
~ What is health-promoting for one person is dangerous or deadly for someone else. (Peanuts anyone?) What is adequate intake of particular nutrient for one person is a deficiency for someone else, and an overdose for yet a third person. We are each highly adaptable, but we are also unique and have our own limits and needs.
~ What we can "get by with" is not the same as what is optimal.
~ Nobody knows for certain what is optimal. Nobody. Not a hundred years ago, not forty years ago, not today. But we do keep refining our notions of what is best for us.
The official version of what constituted "heart healthy" food changed in the course of the 9 years we were in the study, and has continued to change since. I'm all in favor of further research. I just don't take any of it as the final word on what is optimal.
The American Diabetes Association changed its stance on sugar in the 1990s, based on a better understanding of how the body (most bodies) metabolizes carbohydrates.
If you are going to eat a "healthy" alternate diet, you'd better pick your guru, because what one toutes as essential another disdains as harmful.
I don't believe that dementia is caused by a lack of coconut oil any more than I believe that headaches are caused by a deficiency of asprin. That something may alleviate a problem is not proof that it is lack of that something that caused the problem.
And yet, without having the final word on what is optimal for feeding the human body, mankind has managed to survive and even thrive, eating what is available.
I try to eat a wide variety of foods. I try to minimize the amount of highly processed food I eat. I try (not always successfully) to eat amounts that maintain an even weight and energy level. I take every nutritional proclamation, whatever the source, with a grain or two of salt (which is pretty much all the salt I need).