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2. The fear that the caregiving situation will never end and the fear it will end because of death.
3. The lack of support and empathy from those that should be there for you.
4. The lack of support and empathy of those in your situation because it becomes some kind of competition and they always have it worse off. ALWAYS.
5. Not ever being able to make a spur of the moment decision...about anything.
I could go on and on....
I have already hired a lawyer and made out a financial plan. And no I really don't care what my brother tells people...I am just tired of always being the bad guy!
Merry Christmas!
((Hugs)) to everybody who needs one!!
But what about those trips to the ER? Do any of those former friends have any idea what all those may entail? Blood draws, this person or that person popping to say we are going to take care of you. Never to be seen again. Reviews everything on his screen on his lap top probably in the DR's lounge and no one providing us with information.
Here is what happened to me in the last week.
Cardio says to put her on a heart healthy diet, restricted sodium. Hospitalist says she is dehydrated, start a sodium chloride IV. HUH! Did he read the cardios input. Of course not. He floats thru the hospital , feet never touching the ground. Has no time to speak with an uneducated spouse.
Two days later, BP so high six of the nursing staff are working feverishly trying to get her BP under control. Call the DR. Stop the IV. Might be the cause.
Two of hours of me sitting in the corner thinking this is how she is going to leave me. Should I start looking for a mortuary? Will I only need hospice care for a while? Do I notify my brother to have the cemetery plot staked out?
Finally they get under control. Now we wait. Day three, medicare is over. Hospital calls for transport to rehab. One las t BP check before she leaves. BP too high, cancell transport. Wait two days and try again. BP good hurry up and get her out of here. Sign forms that say I have been fully informed of everything.
HUH!
Get her to rehab. Stay until 9:00pm. Go home and pass out for five hours. Rise and no shine. Hurry back to rehab. Find out that she in now able to stand and walk. Went to bathroom by herself with minimal assistance.
Should I call any of the former friends? Naaaah. They have to go to bingo. Can't miss that.
Watch DW sit up on her own. Start feeding herself. Little assist in bath room trips. THIS IS GREAT. SHE IS WALKING. Should I tell anyone. Nope.
Watch her walk down the hall with her walker, turn around ach come back to room.
Next day find her in wheel chair at nurses station. Politely ask why. "Because we could not keep up with her. So we let her visit with us." What a great crew of nurses. (time to get a little misty and thankful.)
Don't forget to educate each shift on the peculiar quirks she is developing. Like hate apple sauce. Got her to swallow meds by giving her a small piece of pork and some frozen cherries.
Have watched her thru three meals to be sue she eats something aand does not choke or gag. The staff is very short handed. I must do many things that The staff should do. Walk her, escort her to bath room, wipe and clean her,dress her, and almost anything else.
Would those friends understand any of this. Hell no. they don't even want to hear or they have all of the solutions and wonder why I am so concerned. She will be taken care of by the nursing staff.(only if they have the time between their other patients and family)
Sure would be nice to have a day off to trim the bushes, but she needs me.
God Bless each and every one of you folks that know what and why this happens to us.
Merry Christmas to all ( good night I am tired.)
Nine pm, time to go home. Been here since 5:30AM. I am tired.
For me, wish the doctors and nurses could see through his lies, his refusal to take meds, his refusal of Home Health nurses temporarcoming into the home, his refusal to move around and do breathing exercises to get better.
I’m feeling very manipulated, by a spouse who wants a servant, doesn’t want to get better. Two weeks post-op, still won’t make his own coffee, simple breakfast, nothing. Yes, I can and do prepare meals, but I refuse the demands to be his short order cook. That’s just manipulative. Oh, and complaining his food tastes funny, is burnt, when it is not burnt, but browned slightly....he is always welcome to cook food the way he likes...wish the medical team got the real picture. But he lies, telling them he’s walking and doing breathing exercises, when he’s not.
I do my best but it's impossible
BlackHole: You're right. I hope I don't cause my own daughter such strife! Good grief!
Why worry it may never happen - plan for the worst & hope for the best - then keep on planning - the reason non-caregivers don't get it most don't know what they are having for dinner tonight but caregivers generally know days in advance
You no longer worship at the alter of 'I'm the centre of the universe' because you have concerns outside of just 'you' & are a better person for it - many of those who don't understand are too selfish to 'waste time listening to all that stuff' because it is not fun - don't waste time on these shallow people
comfortable and painless as possible.
having four (x) sisters and not one calling, stop buy or even send a card makes me feel used. uncared for by them and most of all it hurts me to see my parents hurt due to their selfishness. To me that is unforgiving and that is why they are my X sisters now.
respect, care, help, and love should be what each and every caregiver deserves. Most caregivers are in it for the long term
putting their lives and own families on hold to help ones we love.
what about a simple thank you from a family member. is
that asking to much? Shame on all of you who take advantage of a caregiver without even thinking twice at what we all are and have gone through.
did nothing were counting every penny of their inheritance as soon as
their Mom died. I remember listening to my Aunt crying how they never
called or visited. (at least not after all the valuables had been taken from
her home, while she was still living there?!!)
I've heard that this dynamic of leaving one sib on the hook for the whole
enchilada, is surprisingly common. No offering of support to either care giver or parent, but still wanting control over decisions and of course $$
Care giving has forever changed my view of what some people are really capable of. And it's usually the bubbly charming ones that are most likely
to be absent. But you'd swear it'd be the other way around. The care givers
seem kinda dour and of course exhausted. The care free absent sibs are
often the life of the party. And often the favorites of the parent they so
blithely ignore.
For the harder cases, I often draw the similarities to what a newborn requires. People seem to grasp that a bit easier. I utilize this site for engaging in caregiving issues, although it's my children's complex medical and mental health needs that bring me here.
In specific response to caregiving I typically ask if they are considering being a caregiver? If so who? A sibling, parent, Aunt, in-law etc. For all the similar situations, there are just as many variances.
Even more important to me, and echoed by many here. Are they asking because they are trying to support someone who is a caregiver and wants to better assist them. Because there is a desperate need of that in particular.
Caregiving questions tend to be focused on caring for an adult in need. The truth is, there are lots of children needing caregivers and it is very different than simply being the parent of that child. Someone too often overlooked.
I love the posters statements. Many responses here have made me chuckle as I can relate. I am divorced, disabled single mother, caring for two children who are medically fragile and whom have significant developmental delays from brain injuries. I often do not get to be a mother at all. Just as a son caregiving for his mother, probably rarely gets to simply be the son either.
Being a caregiver especially to family primarily means to accept extreme isolation, painful exhaustion, frequent self neglect to complete neglect, and emotional abuse, even if completely by accident. It shouldn't mean that, but too often in the US, it does. It means being or at least feeling abandoned alot.
I started off with a critically ill infant having explosive bloody stools, was deaf from perinatal infections, and acute microcephaly due to a spinal cord injury I received in a car wreck while pregnant. 3 months after delivering, from wheelchair basically, my oldest fell at school and suffered a traumatic brain injury at age 4. I found myself disabled, in a wheelchair, with a newborn trying to die every month and a 4 year old having lost most of his short term memory, motor coordination and greatly altered personality.
Not only did I get thrust into caregiving mode, I was in desperate need of caregiving myself. 12 years later and not much has changed (except I am divorced and walking- God is merciful). I think back to my childrens' newborn days and can completely identify the same level of need now. Except its adult sized protective undergarments instead of diapers, pediatric specialists as opposed to geriatrics, Medicaid instead of Medicare, and tons of extras frustrations that relate to school age needs.
What is the same is the drain, frustrations, loneliness, fear, loss of income, loss of friends and companionship, being misunderstood, and the deep sense of loss from watching your life go by. Becoming someone who simply struggles to exist is cruel, but also what caregiving often ends up being if not supported by others outside of that role.
And for everyone who says, "wait a minute, those are your kids...", yes true and because of that I work tirelessly without hesitation or regret. However, to say I am mothering would be a partial truth. Just as a daughter caregiving a mother can't in any way enjoy a mother daughter relationship while emptying a bedpan at 1AM and clearing her surgical drains from a hip replacement gone wrong.
The biggest misconception of caregiving is that love is enough. It's not. But it sure makes it easier. And healthy relationships before caregiving needs arise also make the most positive caregiving situations. I love this community here.-PJ
When mom lived with me, I literally hardly had time to eat or sleep (and couldn't sleep much anyway), much less go hang out with friends or to social engagements. Now that she is in a facility, I'm able to sleep better, but it's still difficult and emotionally draining at times, especially when she is having a paranoid or psychotic episode and I'm having to either try and calm her down, or talk to medical professionals that have been summoned if it's really bad. Not to mention paying her bills, rent, taxes and upkeep on her house (that we are unable to use for her care as of right now due to it being tied up in court because of my sister's financial exploitation), dealing with attorneys and court related to said home, shopping, prescriptions, doctor's appointments, etc.
When people who are not caregivers talk about it being a gift or an honor to take care of a parent, or when they tell me "they took care of you so you take care of them" not knowing what it's like to have a personality disordered parent who didn't really "take care of you", I imagine they are thinking of movies where it's warm and fuzzy and glowy, and everyone feels honored. I suspect that's not the reality for the vast majority of us. I think most of us are just trying to do the best we can and survive.
Also, I know how it swallows your time and energy to do grocery shopping ( for two households) and delivering, make doctors appointments, transportation needs, refill prescriptions and organize meds, buy any supplies like disposable pants, and organize any social stuff for your parent.
I would like friends to understand that we caregivers are exhausted, and not able to care for ourselves sometimes. Our own homes go neglected because we are so stretched for time. Social engagements can be the first to go. We are often unable to help others because there is simply no time for anything else.
I would love to hear someone say...can I go to the store for you and your parent? Or even...Tell me how I can help you out this week? Or, let me know when you have any time and I will take you to lunch or a movie. I guess what we need is a little TLC and understanding.
Thanks so much for this site. Peace, dawn1947.
I was told by a geriatric professional that I would be blamed when something happened. It made on sense. That is exactly what happened. I did not get it immediately. But then it made sense later. They needed someone to blame for their inefficiencies and maybe subconscious guilt.
It is very sad that adult children cannot come together when the parent is in need. I think my mom knew there was a rift, even on her death bed and I am sad to know that she died knowing that.
I no longer speak with my sibs as they tried to turn my mom against me, were successful for 8 months when I did not see her. We got back on track and I was with her in the near end. I have no guilt, but doubt they do either. Why would they if they were capable of changing the will and taking everything. Karma has found one of them in a very sad way, and it will find the others. I feel sorry for them more than anything to be so evil and hateful.
I wish you all the best, it is a tough journey, but for me I know I did my best, sacrificed a lot, but have zero guilt.
My mother’s decline set off a similar-yet-different saga of Perception Vs. Reality for me. Wading through the woulds, shoulds and coulds required a strength that I could not always muster.
Mom has been dead for almost 3 years. I am no longer hurt by the people who judged my approach and my decisions (about something they barely understood, thanks in no small part to my mother telling different stories to different people for the last 15 years of her life).
I am still surprised at the amount of such people.
Everyone’s an expert, eh? Ha. They wish.
Yes Katie, indeed. Not terribly long ago, my guy had 3 health incidents in 3 years. Two of the episodes left him temporarily unable to work or drive - plus some re-learning how to walk. The 3rd spell “only” rendered him unable to drive for a month.
All 3 times, his able-bodied and nearby siblings, nieces and nephews offered him (us) no moral, practical or logistical support. None.
They all know we live in a house full of steps and my job keeps me out of the house 11 hours a day (Mon-Fri). Over the years, they all have benefitted from countless free car repairs, free home repairs and free labor form him. Yet the response to our need was CRICKETS.
Duly noted. It was a blessing to only be in our 40s/50s when we learned exactly what his “family support system” was not good for. We can plan for our old age accordingly.
The elephant in the room is...... most (not all) of them are just as thoughtless and self-centered RE their widowed 83-yr-old mother/grandmother.
When feasible (not always), my guy “over-give” on behalf of MIL - to help distract her from the no-shows.
When MIL is no longer around, good riddance to the rest. I will be cordial. I will no longer host any form of socializing with them or “celebrating” with them. I don’t care what day Hallmark says it is and which 15-lb blob of meat Paula Deen says should be on the table.
Not. Gonna. Happen.
It will be a paradigm shift. My guy will be forced to confront the one-sidedness of his family relationships. He knows intellectually that their “connectedness” is largely OUR smoke and mirrors + a mother/grandmother in common. Converting to an AS IS reality will be hard for him.
Sad. My guy has had more years than I’ve had to grasp how things inevitably play out. And understandably, he has more emotions invested in them than I do.
He thinks I enjoy being the “reality police.” Um, not really. But I’m blessed/cursed with it being the only filter I have.
Family is not family in this culture anymore. We used to all chip in and help with an elderly one, now everyone runs the other way, or lives far away. But the expectation that someone care for them is the same and the resources are slimmer and slimmer to this new generation of care givers.
My heart goes to you all. My mother is heading down the path of needing care and refusing to care for herself now , or to go to assist living.
WE who give have hearts that hope we are making someone's life of quality and when we have nothing but the struggle to make it happen, we burn up
boomers as the "me generation" is a bit of a fallacy at closer look. Both
of my parents abandoned their own, who lingered on in pain and misery for many years. They had their own lives and were being "practical". Which for their generation appears to be considered a saintly virtue even when done in a callous manner.
Also before the explosion of medical treatments that now extend lives of the
infirm for decades, many caregiving duties for parents were of relatively short duration.
I think it's ironic that our families are expecting us to sacrifice our own lives
when many either refused or never had to do the same. Actually, maybe
I'm just codependent, but it wouldn't be so bad if caregiving was not also
accompanied by all the other drama and exploitation. I find it strange that
so many of the greatest generation seem to abandon all self care and responsibility and wish to be catered to like babies. Perhaps I myself am
being callous, but it appears that there is a lot of enabling going on.
And it ironically often done by outsiders and those not actually involved
in the day to day care giving.
So many seniors do not behave like this, (of course excluding dementia
which changes personality) so I wonder what drives this abdication
of any responsibility and common courtesy? Is this really inevitable in
old age or is it something else?l Perhaps I'm way off here, but I wonder
how many seniors feel they have their adult children over a barrel. Either
by entanglement of finances (ie long promised inheritance of business,
farm, house, etc) or because that parent has never really loved their
child and the adult children are hoping that by ceaseless care and devotion that their parent's love will finally appear?
those who don’t have to do this don’t even try to understand - my sisterasked my husband why I was complaining & asking for help. So, sorry for my long complaint. You are not alone! You will find lots of caregivers on this forum who are also struggling & sympathetic. Don’t listen to the few who flippantly suggest it’s not that much work. Even with aides it’s a life-consumer! Stay strong & know that we understand your situation & support you. You are wonderful sacrificing so much for a parent. ❤️