I've been taking care of dementia father while mother was in the hospital, but she will be coming home next week. How can I take care of both?

First, I hope your Mom is in rehab after such a long hospital stay. That will help her to be in the best possible shape before she arrives home. Memory care IS A FULL TIME JOB. Add in another senior with mobility issues and I would find it impossible to care for both. I just would!
I agree with Hugemom--- explore EVERY possibility for additional assistance. Seek guidance from the social worker. But first I would do some soul searching. Does the current living situation work (at all) for this scenario? Would senior housing be a better option? How about assisted living? By the time I added live in aides to the costs of my Mom's place, it equaled the cost of memory care for her.
As an aside, the price of non-aide help is much less than aides. Can you bring in lower paid help to do a variety of things such as laundry, housekeeping, companion help to reduce aide time? Only you can asses that. Also, the cost of live in help is less than blocks of hours for aides. Can you put your dad on hospice? That typically brings in an aide for 2 hours a day/5 days a week. At NO COST,  via Medicare. In addition, it brings nurses visits, spiritual care etc. For my friend it also brought in volunteer help.
Keep us posted.

Mom has been in the hospital for 7 weeks and is coming directly home; no rehab?

There's something really wrong with this picture.

Yes, mom is "of sound mind"; that doesn't mean that she is the only one involved in deciding whether she comes home without rehabbing first.

"Mom, I can't do this" sounds like the beginning of the conversation that you need to have with her.

Before your mother is discharged, ask to meet with the social worker at the hospital. You can ask the floor secretary for his or her phone or office number. Discuss with them what help you may be eligible for under her Medicare or supplemental. You can also phone 2-1-1. This is a general helpline. But I would start with the Social Services Department at the hospital. You will need help with both of them. Do you have siblings? If so, are they the sort who will pitch in?

Don’t panic. Harness that energy into finding help. You can also find a lot of agencies who will offer help by searching the Internet.

Hospital sociol worker saved me from drowning in the care of my dad!
Long story short...After only 2 weeks of home health nurses HE asked to return to AL!

Does your mom normally have mobility issues or is this something new? I'd try to locate a rehab for her to stay until the mobility is not of issue. Since you are caring for your father, who is stage 7 AD, I wouldn't think that it was feasible to add even one more thing on your list of responsibilities. That wouldn't even be a close call for me.

Reading about situations like this makes my blood boil and I want to get on the phone and call an Ombudsperson to investigate. But first...getting help for your family. Please don't think "so much for care." You do have options:

A. Does your mother have a PCP, or internist, or does an orthopedic doctor oversee her treatment for mobility issues? Contact these doctors, explain that she's being discharged but that you think she needs additional therapy, but definitely needs home care.

B. Any one of these doctors can script for home care as well as assistive devices. They probably have specific ones with which they deal and can handle this for you. Don't try to locate the assistive devices on your own; you'll probably need a script for any that are paid for by Medicare, and that's another step to take. Let the doctor's office act in a turnkey manner for you.

C. The social worker should ensure that you're given discharge instructions. I wouldn't rely on them being completely accurate, but you are entitled to them. You'll need to know what medications your mother has been on, to provide that data to home care staff.

D. The attending at the rehab facility is also supposed to give you scripts for meds that need to be continued.

Thee are only short term solutions but would at least provide some support until you're able to work out longer term arrangements.

Keep documenting, privately.

On a longer term basis:

1. It seems to me that this is retaliation, pure and simple, reflecting that this facility does not want to address the care level of which you complained, even though your complaint was legitimate.

2. I think they're remiss in not ordering equipment. That is the rehab facility's responsibility, I believe. The attending doctor also should be scripting for home health care. The facility is, I think, noncompliant with the functions of a proper discharge.

3. Has anyone told you that your mother has "met" the goals which they've established, and that's justification for the discharge now? If you're comfortable with challenging them, ask to meet with those who created these goals and claim that she's met them.

4. If they don't cooperate, wait until you've found a place for her, and if you want to pursue it (and I would), hire a medical malpractice attorney just to order the records. They can get them easier than you, although it's not cheap.

5. This will help document (unless the facility alters the records, and that's a possibility) the issue of meeting goals, the failure to provide required personal attention at one point (although someone will come up with an excuse - short staffed, etc.) and perhaps other issues which you can use to report the facility to your state ombudsperson, who can initiate an investigation into the facility.

6. I think the issue is not just the apparent one time negligence but the retaliation of discharging her, refusing to order equipment or help find home health care. It's a continuing noncompliance with the functions of the facility.

7. Contact your state ombudsperson and get him/her involved, if for nothing else to preserve your mother's safety until she's somewhere else.

8. If your mother was in a hospital prior to going to rehab, let the hospital admins (who SHOULD filter the information down to the discharge planners) that the toileting event and early discharge occurred, and alert them to the fact that this facility doesn't meet standards (especially if it claims top notch care in any written publications) and shouldn't be recommended for other patients being discharged, at least until the situation has changed.

9. There's obviously no guarantee that the hospital will change its recommendations (as one outside person recently told me that the hospitals are often "affiliated with" or even own a rehab facility). But the hospital should be aware that this rehab facility didn't meet standards and should be aware of its own role in referring patients.

(As an aside, before we had any idea of the intertwined relationships between hospitals and care facilities and companies, one hospital discharge planner recommended a particular rehab facility. We didn't chose that one, fortunately.

I later learned from someone in an ombudsperson agency that many of the patients who went to that facility never came out, alive. Granted that could reflect the patient's own condition, but an unofficial nickname had been developed for that facility, and it related to death.

A hospital discharge planner is still recommending that facility, even though I told her what I'd learned about it. To my surprise, she even acknowledged being aware of its bad reputation.)

10. You can also notify Medicare of the failings of this facility; Medicare monitors facilities to which it provides reimbursement. Perhaps your mother isn't the only one who's been neglected, and if so, Medicare has the power to address and force changes.


Not germane to the immediate issues, but something I've wondered about as I read about a situation like this:

I don't know without researching whether published and disseminated brochures fall within the guidelines of false advertising, but if they do, a lot of companies and agencies would be in trouble with the FTC. It's probably too big a task for any individual to undertake , especially with what you're facing, but it's something I've been considering since trying to find competent, truthful private duty companies.

But this kind of issue is something an aggressive law firm could undertake under a qui tam action, and I'd love to see it happen!

Do you live with them permanently? Or will caring for both be temporary? Is mom going to be 24/7 caregiver?

And I want to add that friends here at aging care guided me to seeking out the social worker!! They have helped me tremendously with saving my sanity and not second-guessing tough decisions I need to make while caring for my parents!
Wishing you strength demstress...you will find it here, believe me,  I "was" a hot stressed out mess!!! 💜

Thanks all for your good responses! I meant to say "rehab, not "hospital." She has been in rehab for weeks. Her mobility issues are problems with her back and she needs to wear a brace, both ankles had wounds that she was taking care of but had gotten worse. She has been through intensive physical therapy and is able to walk and use the stairs now but with assistance. She is going to need a different type of care than my father. I have asked the social worker at rehab what type of care she would need. In the initial meeting weeks ago the SW was very helpful and said that they would train me in her care, order any equipment that she would need, and give me at least 7 days' notice when she will be discharged. I thought that was great. I kept asking when will she be discharged and they said they didn't know. When my mother mentioned that a night shift nurse had not responded to her calls for help, yelled at her when she did ask for help, let her sit in her own feces for hours, we let the facility know and asked them to look into the matter. It was shortly thereafter that they said she would be discharged--no seven days' notice, no ordering of equipment, no assistance whatsoever. I was handed a stack of brochures and I can order my own equipment and get my own health care assistance. It is like being dumped in the street. So much for care. I look at their brochures everyone is smiling, happy, and loving. In reality it's another story.

If your mom is not able to get off toilet by herself, how would you handle someone with that degree of mobility problems? Plus, care for a stage 7 dementia patient? I have no idea how ones does this alone in the home. I hope you'll get other suggestions.