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You can't legally take the truck if you aren't his active PoA and your Father does not have a medical diagnosis of cognitive impairment. I agree you'll need to disable it, but he may decide to "fix" it or have it towed to a shop, etc. There are stories on this forum about men who've gone out and purchased new vehicles when their concerned children took their vehicles, so don't underestimate your Father.

I recently transitioned my 95-yr old Mom out of driving by having her primary care doctor write an order for a virtual driving assessment through their OT (occupational therapy) department. It worked really slick and I wasn't the one to break the news that she failed those tests, which had to go into her medical records and then her primary doc (who is a mandated reporter) was required to report that info to our Dept of Public Safety...who sent my Mom a letter telling her her license is now cancelled.

Call his primary care doc to see if you have this option for your Father. You can tell him a "therapeutic fib" to get him to go to such appointment ("The DMV requires this test in order to retain your driving privileges). The OT gives a MOCA test (for judgment/executive brain function) and reflex testing. My Mom turned out to be high risk.

If your Father doesn't have a PoA but then gets a medical diagnosis of cognitive impairment, this may cause a future problem in managing his affairs and making decisions in his best interests. A person with no PoA who is cognitively impaired may very likely end up as a ward of a court-appointed legal guardian.

A primary doc is the best person to do the basic, first-level cognitive testing. But is should also be accompanied by other tests of other health issues, many of which can produce dementia-like symptoms (such as a UTI, which is treatable).
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CaringinVA Oct 2, 2024
Such a good way to handle this, Geaton. I like that you did not have to break the news to your mother.
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You can disable the truck so it won’t move but he won’t feel as if you are trying to hold him back by talking his car or key’s , and it’s just a car issue. For an elderly there is nothing worse than being told what he/she can do, like a child. I should know I’m one of them.
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Does he have dementia? Where's he leaving from and going to? Does he live alone? Does he live with you?

Not knowing the specifics, it's difficult to answer your question. If you don't want him leaving, yes, you'll have to make sure he can't. If that means taking the truck, that's what you have to do. If he really wants to leave, he'll find another way, truck or no truck.

I seriously doubt that he's "fine most days." Whoever is supposed to take care of him needs help because eyes need to be on him 24/7. In order to keep him safe, that may mean care in a facility. Otherwise you risk what happens to many other elders when they start wandering, which is disappearing down the interstate, getting off and becoming confused, then peeing in a condominium guard shack. This has happened with the fathers of two separate friends. It could have been worse, like ending up in a canal with vultures swooping around. That has also happened to people I know about.

Take this seriously. It's more than taking the truck.
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Dah....if your father has dementia he is not fine ever, and should NOT be driving ever. Period, end of sentence.
Please either take away his keys or the truck so he can't kill or seriously injure some innocent person on the roadways.
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Jclvnfam Oct 2, 2024
I agree! We took the keys away and hid them from our loved one diagnosed with dementia. Best decision ever for peace of mind and protecting others.
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Jimsdaughter2: Disable the vehicle if your father suffers from dementia.
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YES.

I presume he has dementia and that has been determined by a medical provider?
When you say he is 'fine most days,' you do not tell us how he is / how he functions the other / rest of the other days, which is important for us to know.

While you'll want to go to DMV, be sure to have legal authority to make decisions in this regard. Equally, if he is determined ... change the key on his key chain (if he has one ... often we don't need keys anymore) ... take a part out of the truck ...

Everything depends on how he functions day-to-day.
If you feel he is in danger, by all means - take appropriate action for his safety / welfare ... and expect back-lash. He won't be happy ... he may say he can drive fine. This is very normal - this resistance. It is a huge loss to him to not be able to drive (does he drive at all?) - so calmly, clearly, set boundaries with immense compassion when discussing with him.

Often common sense approach won't matter to him. i.e., 'we want to keep you safe.' I wouldn't bother with that - although, again, it depends on his cognitive functioning/abilities. And the relationship / communication you have.

Thank you for asking. (I just came back fr a LOVELY trip with a friend who is close to 90. While MOST of his driving was as good as mine / could be, he potentially got us killed / injured twice. He is aware and concerned - and overall, extremely active and engaged in his life. Still. I'm not ready to go ... nor that way. ... my compassion went out the window at that point.)

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I had my 93 old mother's doctor tell her she shouldn't be driving. So my husband went ahead and disabled her car so I didn't have to take her keys. But I remind her what the doctor said. The car is still in her garage, and as far as I know, she hasn't attempted to driving it which has been over a year.
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You have posted this under Alzheimer's and Dementia, Jimsdaughter.
But you haven't filled us in about your Dad.
So I have a couple of questions for you:
How old is Dad?
Has Dad had a DIAGNOSIS of dementia?
Does Dad live alone or with you?
Do you feel Dad is no longer competent to drive?
Has Dad had any recent DMV testing of driving and written test skills?
What contact have you with Dad's doctors, assuming he sees them.

Thanks for this information and it will so help in attempting to answer your query to us. I surely do welcome you to Forum.
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If your dad has never had an accident or a close call it’s going to be next to impossible to ‘reason’ him out of the keys. But if packing up his truck to leave is irrational to begin with, you can be sure his brain function is impaired and he shouldn’t be driving.

My own husband when in the early stages of dementia, believed like a 10 year old, that nothing bad would ever happen because nothing bad had ever happened before. Nothing could persuade him otherwise. Even after he backed into a garbage truck and I used that (along with some creative lying) to get rid of his car, he STILL denies it was his fault and thinks someone is trying to “screw” him!

If you are legitimately afraid for his safety and the safety of others you are going to have to forget trying to appeal to his higher self which he may no longer possess, and use your own creativity.
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My mother did the same thing when she still had early dementia. This was confusion about her current living conditions and anxiety that she couldn't stay there. Keep being aware of your father's state of mind and reassure him as much as possible that he doesn't have to leave or go somewhere else. If he is still driving safely and is not getting lost, it may not be necessary to take away the keys to his truck. Taking away their driving privileges is a big sacrifice for some people. Can you put a tracker on his truck so that if he does leave you'll be able to track him? Is he a wanderer, who goes out and then gets lost? Is he capable of going to activities on his own, perhaps to senior centers where he can meet people his own age? You'll have to assess his ability to be independent as time goes on. Also be aware of your own limitations, will you need help caring for him at some point? Will it be better for him to live in a senior residence at some point? His financial situation will determine his options. Make sure all of his paperwork is in order in case there is a time when he is not able to care for himself. He'll need a will, a living will with his advance medical directives, and needs to set up a healthcare proxy (a Power of Attorney) who can make medical decisions for him, and a POA who can handle financial decisions for him, help pay bills, etc. Will you be his POAs? All the best to you both!
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