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You can get a consultation with an elder care attorney about all of this, but I honestly believe the POA holds all the cards here.
Best of luck to you.
This doesn't happen out of the blue. Why not tell us what happened that caused him to say this. If your visits are bringing dissention in to the home, and brother is POA, then this may be one reason you are forbidden to visit.
Your brother, who is POA may also be concerned about this credit card use. Did you make purchases for yourself on that credit card, and if you in what amount?
You also say you have never had a relationship with this brother.
So we are missing most of the real story here and could only guess at the reasons this happened.
Short of contacting APS and an elder law attorney in your area I cannot think of anything you can do about this. Apparently the boyfriend and your brother are in agreement on this.
I wish you luck.
You need to take responsibility for 'allowing' it without - perhaps - intervening before now. While water under the bridge, why haven't you asserted yourself and your 'rights' sooner - over the years? Are you intimidated by your brother? Something is going on inside you that you need to admit / address; there is likely a lot of history that you are not sharing with us. You don't have to although you have to admit it to yourself.
As things are now, the only recourse I see is you getting an attorney.
I am not sure why you ask us "What can I do legally to allow me to visit ...)
I do not know or understand why you haven't enlisted an attorney yet.
It seems like you need to assess how you feel about your brother and the relationship you've had for perhaps decades. It has everything to do with why you've waited this long to address the need / issue. You need to have a conversation with your brother although I would recommend you contact an attorney first.
Gena / Touch Matters
Something is not right here. Why, if you were the one closest to mom, did You not have POA, and why or how did your siblings have it?
This should serve as an example for all. If you want to live with parents before they become feeble or are the primary caregiver, make sure you get POA and not one of your siblings who visits twice a year and on holidays. If you can’t convince parents to sign over POA to you, and instead one of your siblings has POA, be aware that you will be in a very vulnerable and precarious situation.
A POA who acts like this is certainly not looking out for the best interest of the parent
An elderly infirm parent can easily be swayed to believe the unscrupulous POA & follow his instructions
Separate from this issue with the brother, if she is competent she gets to decide who visits her own property regardless of any POA. If tge is competent and the boyfriend won’t let you talk to her or even have her come on the phone to say what she wants, you could conceivably have a basis for calling APS….if you have belief she is in danger or being held prisoner (which is more than just hearing that she doesn’t want to see you).
Document everything with dates and what happened. This happened to me and my sibling poisoned my mom against me telling her lies & that I was trying to steal her money. She had dementia & was afraid to go against him.
APS was useless along with every other agency I tried to get help from. He got her to amend her trust removing myself & my kids leaving everything to him 100%.
When she went in a nursing home I contacted Alliance For Better Long Term Care & I finally got to see her before she passed. I only wished I had gotten a lawyer sooner……you need someone who does litigation. Best of luck to you.
Good Luck!
Maybe she was afraid and needed him to live with her instead of the 30 mile occasional visit that you could provide.
Did you see your Mom on Easter Sunday? Was she healthy, happy and well cared for? Do other providers, doctors, caregivers, friends visit with her? If you are innocent and truly concerned for Mom. call the police or bring a family friend (3rd party) with you to visit. If your brother won’t allow you to visit, step away and calmly call the police and request a wellness check. They will speak with Mom and investigate your Moms condition (grooming, state of mind and cognitive functioning etc. ) how the home is kept, and make a record of their findings in the incident report.
If it is true that you are concerned, you should ask for recent medical records and prescription records that would reveal that Mom is getting care and taking meds. To make sure Mom is not subjected to medical neglect by your brother. Of course since you and Mom were so close, you probably have already called neighbors etc. who would also have concerns for your Mom’s well being.
Elder attorneys have no genuine concern for your Mom - they only want to get paid.
If all of the above checks out- extend an olive branch by asking your brother how you can support him in caring for your Mom.
There is no rhyme or reason for their behavior, other then their perceived power increase, financial gaij and general enjoyment of tormenting the non NPD person.
Those who have responded referencing some type of rational that hasn't been disclosed are what the NPD person relies on to assist them with their successful abuse of others.
They are naive, enabling and incorrect. They are lucky to have lived a life free of those with NPD, but their lack of recognition for someone who clearly displays narcistuc behavior is unacceptable and leads to an exorbitant amount of abuse to vulnerable populations.
APS will fall victim to them. Courts will be fooled by them and in the end, they typically win.
I would suggest requesting your brother undergo psychological evaluations for personality disorders. APS may, not for sure, but may assist with that.
Your brother will say he's not a narcissist if asked. This is your primary validation, as those not with NPD respond with "I am? Really? What makes you say that?". NPD just say no without grounds to do so.
You say that you have been your mother's caregiver for many years?
Does that mean she lived with you or you lived with her?
It says in your profile you never lived more than 30 minutes from her.
You now mention a "boyfriend" who won't let you in Mom's home. Is this the boyfriend of your brother, or is this Mom's boyfriend?
You say that though your brother only saw your mother a total of two times over a decade she STILL made him her POA?
Do you know that is very unusual behavior? Do you suspect there was any trickery here on your brother's part?
All that you wrote us left me thinking "what is missing in this story?".
It would be very abnormal for a partner of your mother and the son of your mother who is POA to SHUT OUT a lovingcaregiver daughter who wishes only to help and assist.
So imho there is SOMETHING missing in this story.
It makes me long to hear brother's and boyfriend's side of the story.
If boyfriend were speaking to me, what do you think he would tell me about this situation?
If brother were speaking to me, what do you think he would tell me about this situation?
That is to say, what REASONS have they given you for their behavior in shutting you out?
On the face of what you tell me I am left with only two conclusions: They are an "either/or".
1. Either both your Brother and your Mother's boyfriend are purely evil and have entrapped your mother and keep her jailed and hidden away from you.............................
OR
2. The brother is the POA and the boyfriend is the partner now caring for mother and protecting her and her finances because there was some unaccounted for expenditures, or there is some disruptive argument going on in front of mom that is disturbing to them.
You can/should see an elder law attorney. Gather your facts, any information from witnesses, any proof you have, and attend an hour of time with the attorney.
I do not see you mention that your mother has any dementia.
Where is SHE in all of this?
Because if your mother is competent she can change her POA any day she would wish to.
I wish you good luck ongoing.
It's often difficult for us to make any judgements when we get one side of the story here. I hope you will update us on what you find out from the attorney.
If you suspect your mother is "being withheld" illegally from you, and/or that there is some abusive behavior on part of brother or boyfriend, do call APS to make a report.
I know, Forum members..............don't say it...............likely I will NEVER LEARN.
I have been trying of late SO hard to look at the date posted. To see if others already posted what I will, to read old posts and profiles. And what do I do?????
I of course ANSWER SOMEONE I ALREADY ANSWERED!
Not only that but I already said she never came back to speak with us.
I will be punishing myself severly for this infraction.
I will be trying to be more careful.
Lordy!