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Husband is the type that holds all his feelings in and was blessed that his elderly mother died peacefully and without any pain or health problems in her sleep ...just old age. My mom is in Hospice and Assisted Living with Lymphoma and Alzheimers and is stuggling with her decline and pain , even though hospice is working well with AL staff to,keep her comfortable. I visit her most everyday but we are going away for 2 days, wirh hospice encouragement and blessings so I can recharge and have some relaxation. Mom also told me to get some rest and have a good time. When I called her before we left, she sounded so tired and down...she has an infection in her mouth which is being treated but hasnt resolved and she is in pain and not eating. When I hung up, all my pent up tears came out , and hubby told me to stop crying. That shes almost 93....that death is a part of life, and that I should accept she is dying. In all other areas he is a great husband and very loving with our adult kids and grandchildren ..volunteers to help people in,our church, etc. His best childhood friend told me that men , and especially my husband, whom he has known over 50 years now, often get angry because they do feel deeply but do not know how to make things better. Anyone else going through this? I am the only family member still left and willing to be involved in moms life ..my husband does come with me to visit with her occasionally but my jackass NPD brother doesnt even call her. So Im it , im doing it alone, and Im heartbroken and angry.I have always been very strong and independent , and my husband rarely sees my vulnerable side and I rarely ask for help or comforting...been taking care of parents for past 20 years with whatever they have needed and raised my 2 sons alone, working 2-3 jobs ..but I am proud of that , and how well they are doing....remarried after they were adults ..on my own raising them after ly divorce for 20 years. So I never could break down and had to be strong. We have been married for 14 years now.

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I've been married for 47 years.

I have NEVER see my husband cry from 'emotion'. Pain? Yes, sort of, but Acc to him, emotions and 'feelings' are STUPID. Every uncomfortable emotion, to him, gets translated into anger. This is frustrating to me, but I also know it is a very, very common way for people to channel feelings into what they feel is 'appropriate'. Anger is a 'manly' emotion.

Knowing how he was raised--It's amazing he's even functional. I know he does care, he never learned how to show feelings, emotions, etc. Being an engineer (which my daddy also was) his thinking is very structured to 'problem solving'. Most things in life are not 'problems' to be solved but simply the price we're paying for being alive!

I know he's afraid if he shows one crack in the facade, he'll fall to pieces.

For me? If I need to share some 'feelings' with him, I tell him in advance that I need his SUPPORT and LOVE and I am not asking for a solution to anything. I just need to vent. Been a sharp learning curve for him, and I know he'll never really change.
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tygrlly1 Apr 2023
Thank you for your great advice …it makes so much sense and describes my hubby and a lot of men. I appreciate you replying and sharing your wisdom. ❤️
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Your dh is in need of some of this tlc and devotion you're showing mom HIMSELF now, from his wife. Which is not asking too much after being subjected to you caring for parents for the entirety of your marriage. My dh stood by my side for 10+ years while I had to orchestrate my parents care and I was very grateful to him for all he put up with. If he had an occasional meltdown, he was entitled to it and it did nothing to warrant my anger. I never expected him to dance in the street 24/7 over all the chaos involved, who would???

Team work works 2 ways. You take but you give as well. A 2 day mini vacation is a tiny thing of dh to ask of you in return for 14 yrs of supporting you caring for sick parents. And his friend is right....there IS no way to fix cancer, old age and death except to accept the inevitable. We can rail against the moon and curse God but still watch the process unfold. Cling together now instead of drifting apart.
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tygrlly1 Apr 2023
Dear sweet Lealonnie

With all you are going through and have been through with your hubbys health too , you reach out to me and so many others.❤️Your advice is invaluable snd I will take to heart. I have been praying for you and will continue to do so. God bless you for being one of the angels on this forum 😇🙏🏻💕
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Tygrlly, I am so sorry. You are grieving and your tears are part of that process. You are grieving that you can’t make it better for your mom.
I have lost both my parents, my hubby still has his. And I know that I will need to give him space to grieve when that time comes, I can’t protect him from that, even though I’ve been down that road and know how it hurts. Please let hubby know that you have to process this for yourself, and your tears are a part of that. ((Hugs))
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tygrlly1 Apr 2023
Thank you ❤️
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All your feelings are valid.
You are certainly allowed to feel sad.. and cry too.

Sometimes men (or women, or kids, parents..) just don't know what to do when we cry. Or they want to 'fix it'. So they tell you to stop crying.

Sigh.

How nice if someone just LISTENED eh? And gave you a BIG hug.

Ignore the emotionaly stunted spouse & look for other supports that CAN offer the support you need. (I have had to do this MANY times, I still love him but realise he cannot meet all my needs, especially at sensitive times.

Sometimes the power of gal pals is needed!

(((Hugs))) from me.
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I’m sorry for your pain in this. I cried many tears of anticipatory grief, both of the sadness of seeing my parent’s decline and the looming loss. And I’ve always despised anyone saying “don’t cry” to another. I’ve often heard it said and cringe, because I wholeheartedly believe that the tears are for a reason and need to flow. They are healing. Many of us have husbands that are fixers, they are internally programmed to fix the issue, and when confronted with something that has no fix, they just aren’t good, they say dumb things. It’s not out of meanness, but lack of having a solution. Cry as you feel the tears coming, seek a grief support group like GriefShare as they may be a big help, and know that others understand. I wish you peace
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tygrlly1 Apr 2023
I will chevk out GriefShare...thank u ....
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Your mother is in a care facility. You aren't doing her care. Why put all the stress, anxiety, and depression caregivers have on yourself? There is no need for this self-inflicted pain.
You are grieving your mother because you love her and don't want her to suffer or die. Everyone understands that and so does your husband. The fact that he goes with you to visit your mother and is a good husband to you counts for a lot more than having the right words to say. Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words.
My first husband was Eastern-European. Polish. Men from that part of the world are tough. They don't cry or complain or talk about their feelings. Like your husband he didn't always know the right words to say. He didn't have to because I knew they were written on his heart.
I think you know what's in your husband's heart too. He's not being insensitive to you. He's being the only way he knows how to be. Every man can't be Lord Byron. That doesn't mean that they're insensitive and don't care. He's there with you and has your back. That's love.
The tears and talking about feelings that's what your girlfriends are for. Or your sisters and cousins if you have them. Or your therapist.
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tygrlly1 Apr 2023
Lol....He IS Eastern European.....'.your words resonated with me as did those of everyone who was kind enough to reply. We re at a cute little hotel on a lake with our fur baby , waiting for dinner to be delivered..and its been wonderful to just sleep better and laugh again. Thank you all...so needed this break!
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Women are always told to make allowances for men who don't understand how to handle their emotions. We get tired of that. We divorce them for that. They don't want to change, so we'll keep putting up with it. Until we divorce them. More of them need to understand that we can and will do that. Grow up, guys!

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Good for you for taking care of your mom. You are clearly a devoted daughter. However, you deserve a vacation. Your husband deserves a vacation. Mom is being taken care of, and you can't do any more for her. She's had a nice long life, and it's nearing a close. What can you do to help yourself accept that? Well, step back, for one thing. Realize that she's not your responsibility now, with hospice and AL taking the lead. You don't have to feel her every pain, monitor her mouthfuls, or forgo relaxation. Her journey is almost over, and that is a very good thing in her situation.

And yours. Good luck, and I hope she has a peaceful passing. I'm very sorry this has happened to her.
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tygrlly1 Apr 2023
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You are obviously very dedicated to your mother, you have established a pattern of control in regards to her. The lines have become blurred.

She is being cared for, I get the feeling he thinks that you are too involved, too consumed with your mother.

Your brother has no obligation to care for your mother, nor do you, 20 years of caregiving is bit much for anyone to handle or accept for that matter.

A 2 day trip is nothing, why not take a long vaca with your husband, show him that he is your priority, not your mother, might make a world of difference to him.
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tygrlly1 Apr 2023
We are hoping for a 5 day trip end of May 🫰to Florida for our anniversary Thanks to all for reminding me that hubby has also been along for this journey both the good and the ugly ..I need to not be so sensitive and remember he processes things differently but does care. I guess it’s all getting to me and our little 2 day trip will be good ❤️thank you all.
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HI Tygrilly1 - I'm so very sorry to read your post - and I wish you much support, love and kindness as you move forward with your mom's situation. You sound like a very strong person and you've accomplished a lot in your life - and to hope to hear comforting words from a loved one during an emotional time isn't a lot to ask. Unfortunately, not everyone has the right sensitivity or may have the right words at the right time.

It's impossible to be strong all of the time and everyone needs a soft place to land at times. And, it's also important to allow yourself to cry when you need to, and experience your emotions rather than suppress yourself. I hope your husband will understand - and sometimes certain friends or other family members that you're close to can provide the right support.

Wishing you my very best ~
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tygrlly1 Apr 2023
❤️thank you
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I was so disgusted with a former male friend. As his girlfriend grieved, instead of hurting for/along with her, he became angry that she couldn’t “shut up about it”. (they split) From my own observations (I’m around a lot of men) it seems like some men perceive emotions as a weakness, unless it’s anger. Reminds me of my kids before they could articulate their feelings. Pain, sadness, hunger, disappointment, etc, all came out as angry crying.

I remember thinking, in the midst of dealing with my mother, my kids, and life in general, “I can’t afford the luxury of emotions!” But we all have them and they came out in other ways, like stress eating, sleep issues, and depression.

My husband is one of the strongest guys I know, because he acknowledges his feelings and deals with them, instead of burying them. We both get overwhelmed and take turns being the strong one.

I am interpreting your post as a cry for help because you’re exhausted from having to suck it up and stand strong for so long. You’d like a break and need to feel someone has your back.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest this may be a marriage counselling issue. If he’s in that toxic mindset of men not having “effeminate” feelings and you are hesitant to ask for emotional support so as to avoid triggering him... perhaps a neutral 3rd party can help you find open, honest middle ground. It takes a lot of trust to be open and true to yourself. And to ask for help when you’ve never been allowed to be vulnerable.

My apologies if I am way off track.
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tygrlly1 Apr 2023
Yes
Something I have been wanting to suggest to him.
looking for a grief counselor for myself and may invite hubby to be a part of that. Or marriage counseling when my plate isn’t so full. Thank you
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