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It is very difficult to deal with .
My advice is that Mom should not live with any of her children . Mom will need to be cared for by non family .
This is what my mother’s doctor told me when Mom was no longer safe living alone . My mother was abusive , refused to eat, shower , change clothes . I was at my wits end. The doctor was more worried about me than my mother . Mom had to go to assisted living .
Good Luck .
With very thick skin, a hard hat & noise cancelling headphones?
And good support for the kids dealing with this.
You are not obligated to do any hands on care, nor even to visit if you don't want to.
And the nice thing about having her in a facility, is if she starts to get nasty, you can just get up and leave and tell her that you'll be back another day when she perhaps will be in a better mood.
Because today every other person who comes to Forum is dealing with a Narcissist. That either means that there are percentages of people dealing with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, estimated to be 6.2 world wide and 5% in the USA , is wildly under-reported, or that every narcissist in the world someone lands on AgingCare Forum.
Please tell me the symptom of OCD you are dealing with so that I can try to guess whether this is also diagnosed by an amateur.
Start out with keep things calm. Don't argue.
Those are always great places to start.
Then I recommend starting out with Teepa Snow videos. When you have got through all of those do some online study. Use your favorite search engine, type in "Dealing with Narcissim" and "Dealing with OCD sufferers".
That's going to give you a great start.
Come back to us then with a specific situation.
Tell us how you handled it, and how your handling of it went South.
We will try to give you suggestions on how to handle it should it re-occur.
Wishing you the best of luck. With all of these on your plate there will be lots to learn.
Remember...........you didn't break it; your can't fix it; and in all likelihood it cannot BE fixed. So it is a matter of staying calm, getting help, and getting through it.
Interestingly you say that this person you speak of also has dementia. That's almost lucky, in that dealing with someone with dementia is also quite like dealing with anyone with a personality disorder.
We see people on this forum all the time who have exhausted themselves by running obstacle courses set up by their dementia-afflicted OCD narcissist parents. Shuffling them from one of their adult kids' homes to the other, moving them across the country because mom says if she can move back to East Podunk she'll be happy, maintaining her home with the hoarding and all, cleaning up after her incontinent pet (and incontinent her). And all the while she's hiding toilet paper in the fireplace and screaming all night because the ceiling fan is a giant spider that's going to kill her. This progression might take five years or so, and then her children realize that they've bent over backward for mom and it has done no good. None.
Save yourself the misery by skipping steps 1, 2, 3, and 4. Go directly to step 5, memory care. Start visiting some now.
P.S. There are meds that will calm her down, and you should ask her doctor about them immediately.
They can't deal with making decisions and are only concerned about themselves and what they want. Trying to 'help' them often winds up making the CGs just flat out crazy and sick.
"Dementia" is the definitive word here. A broken brain cannot be reasoned with and can no longer hold on to information. Add into that the OCD and Narc behavioral traits and you have the trifecta of 'nightmare' aging!!
This was my MIL for the last year of her life. Driving everyone absolutely nuts, demanding this, then that, complaining of everything, seeing problems and issues when there were none. It took my DH and his 2 sibs about 10 months to realize that she was never getting 'better' and they had to get out from under her spell.
My MIL went into ALF, but was quickly deemed to be waaaay too bad for ALF and was being moved to MC when she passed away.
I have to figure out a way to forgive her for stealing a year of my DH's life from him. At some level. I'm still really angry with her for being so impossible--even though, towards the end of her life, she really wasn't capable of being responsible for her behavior.
That's quite a big question.
Oldest, anything specific?
Any safety concerns? Or behaviours that you want ideas & strategies for?
In my experience OCD and narcissism go hand and hand with dementia.
I feel that it's a bit like alcoholism, any bad aspects of a persons personality seems to be amplified with dementia, not unlike alcoholics.
If your an angry person your much likely to be an angry dementia patient. Same with OCD.
Please do read up and you tube more , you will get a better understanding and more compassion, when trust me I know it's at times hard to find.
Best of luck to you. Any more specific Questions? Be glad to answer them for you
Anyway . The doctor told me dementia was just like throwing gasoline on a fire and that Mom had no filter and her brain automatically would be in manipulation mode . I asked the doctor what my mother said , and the doctor would not even tell me . The doctor said to limit how much time I spent with my mother , for my own good .
I’m sorry to say but Teepa Snow is useless in these cases . Nothing worked , my mother was too abusive and manipulative , always playing the victim . The doctor told me that these people can not be cared for by family members .
They need to be cared for by strangers who they will not try to guilt trip , abuse , and manipulate the way they do family .
From what I have seen Teepa works for Alzheimer’s who are more forgetful . It did not work for my mother or my FIL with vascular dementia . They were still too smart and always challenging and being manipulative .
I feel your pain and I too have to find what makes me happy first, the Narcissistic behavior is magnified by the dementia. Go find your soul and smile again.