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Is this person wearing Depends? Please share more information about this matter so that we can assist you further.
Is incontinence the only problem or are there other problems as well?
Hopefully they would give reasonable notice and also allow you to try some basic things first, Depends etc.
Even though Mom's lease was year to year rent wise she had to put in that she was leaving 30 days before her leaving date so I figure it works that way for the AL, they need to give u 30days.
Now if the person needs a higher level of care that is another matter.
If the resident can not transfer from bed to chair or chair to toilet or commode SAFELY with one person assisting the facility may discuss transferring the resident to Skilled Nursing where equipment can be used to safely transfer the resident.
I can not imagine, nor have I ever heard of Assisted Living "kicking out" a resident that is incontinent.
So I am thinking this is unusual. Care costs are increased with level of care. That is to say if someone enters quite independent they are on level one care, and their cost is less than a person requiring aid with incontinence, even toileting care, which can get you up to a level four with a lot of added cost very quickly due to the need of increased staffing for your care.
I would discuss with your administration their rules and regulations, as each ALF is an individual business run by their own company and with their own rules.
The place that gave me notice mom had to leave is still horrible. They were in the newspaper for non-compliance with local building ordinances. I am glad they did me the favor of kicking her out. It was stressful but worth it.
Read the admissions packet is right!
https://regs.health.ny.gov/content/section-4884-admission-and-retention-standards
(c) An operator must not accept nor retain any person who:
___(9) has chronic unmanaged urinary or bowel incontinence;
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Is the incontinence chronic and unmanaged?
If NOT, I suggest you either try to negotiate with them for additional service (for a fee, of course :-| ) - or - talk with an attorney.
If you have to move her, try to find a smaller, more personal home for her - where they view her as a person and not just a point of revenue.
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On my soapbox: This is another reason to (when at all possible) to keep yourself and loved ones out of "facilities." Not only can you be forced out of an assisted living facility, you have little control over the care provided, and costs will likely increase over time and often by large amounts.
All of this was covered in the resident packet that was given to the new resident or their representative at the meeting where the contracts were signed. If no one reads the the resident packet, that's on them not the AL.
You need to check the contract/lease.
My FIL’s specifically talked about this and that a 30 day notice would be given .
MIL is being evaluated for ALF care tomorrow and the 'kids' stated firmly that she does not have any toileting issues, but since her trash can is always partially filled with wet/soiled depends---she's obviously NOT continent.
Crud. IS that going to keep her out of an ALF? I guess the next move would to be considering MC, which is simply a step up in care, but a HUGE step up in cost.
Well, nothing I can do at this point. The kids painted a very rosy picture of MIL to the director and I think that's going to backfire, big time. Oh well---guess we'll see!
The kids saying your MIL has no toileting issues can mean that she is able to take care of her incontinence on her own , and it’s controlled meaning she is not soiling or wetting on furniture . They can always charge for the higher level of care in AL if they need to help her . So long as she is cooperative when she needs help , it should be ok in AL.
Each to their own. Good luck with your karma.
p.s. I wonder how many of the critics actually work for "facilities" (a.k.a. warehouses for the elderly). Given this is website owned and run by profiteers, I have little doubt they have people who "push" facility living. $$$$$
It is very sad that you seem to be so angry.
I am 81. I both had children and spent my life as a nurse when we did what was called "primary care". That meant we did it all. The IVs and the vital signs and the cleansing of the patient. Tasks were not divided between RN and CNA. It was a time when there was lots less record keeping, computer management; indeed we regulated our IV drips by hand, not by the much more safe machine method of today. As I said, another time.
So you will know I am up to all sorts of knowledge about cleansing folk of all ages, newborn to dying.
There is an enormous difference between an adult and a child.
As to in home care. As I said, I was an RN who LOVED her job. But it was clear to me that I could never have done it 24/7 for anyone without those precious days off, hours between shifts, long vacations. I knew early on that I would not have been capable of that. Not strong enough. My own limitations.
Moreover, that was never my parents' wish for me, nor their expectation.
I, at 81, have a 62 year old daughter. She has raised her family now, son through college. Her husband is retired and in this or the next year she herself hopes to retire. They have PLANS they have waited and saved and hoped for a lifetime. My own plans are done. I had that time of retirement, of building a little glass cottage in the country and watching the deer and fox scamper in the hedgerow, of chopping wood for the fire. Those retirement years were some of the most precious of my entire life.
It would SHATTER ME to think that instead of those plans the next decade or so would be spent on caring for me. SHATTER ME. So it is not only my expectation, but I would NEVER allow it.
We are all different. We all make different choices. We all have different expectations.
You are correct that this site is owned by A Place For Mom. They are but one part of this consumer society that welcomes our birth and will be there at our death as well.
I think that particular company we speak of serves a real need, though I have never myself used it. My brother before his own death and before the death of his partner used a similar but not that particular service in Palm Springs, and it worked so well for him.
On this very Forum in fact the feedback is very divided as to A Place for Mom.
Some have said they get pesty and others suggest you just say "He went on Medicaid" and you will never get another call. Guess what, no matter what was said good or bad no one ever censored a word of it, and won't likely censor this one.
( We members on Forum are divided about Reverse mortgages as well!)
Again. You are angry. You got responses you didn't like. I am afraid people who may or may not have had loved ones in care (my beloved brother was in ALF) took umbrage, felt your suggestion that people should not be placed in care was worthy of the responses they gave.back.
No. We don't know you. You don't know us. But this particular Forum is full of some of the most kind people I ever met, trying to help others. Many are doing hands on 24/7 care at home. Some are doing OK and posting helpful hints. Others are crumbling under the pressure. But I think most here are truly trying. IMHO.
PS. I think Karma is nonsense. But then I do Tarot, and I think IT'S nonsense also, so go figure.