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You can tell its fro overseas by the wording.
And I wonder if mods don't just make up common emotional scenarios to improve SEO (or something like that) and to keep users engaged. I'm plenty cynical. lol
Welcome! AC has been a lifeline for many and I think it becomes easier to separate wheat from chaff as you go along.
I think I got this same 'message' in an Email once and it came straight from Nigeria, if I recall.
I reported the PM to the admins; there are 3 dots to the right above the message; click on the dots and it offers a chance to Report the message.
Yes, we get trolls here quite often!
I received her message FOUR times! 😉
"And I wonder if mods don't just make up common emotional scenarios to improve SEO (or something like that) and to keep users engaged."
i really hope not.
it would be very, very wrong.
every post brings up emotions; many of us sincerely want to help.
it would be cruel to intentionally provoke those emotions, and for made-up scenarios.
Down in the lower right hand corner is a small box for reporting issues ("Send us a message") directly to the Admins. Provide your e-mail address, URL if the fraud is in a thread, and your conclusion that the thread/post is fraudulent. I think it's quicker than posting in a thread.
You can also call: 239. 594-3222
There are many of those type of posts on AC and for whatever reason, they read funny to me. It's obviously a complicated, emotional scenario and asking vaguely for input from an anonymous forum in this way seems off to me.
And it could just be me and my cynicism. 😉
But even if fake, there are still so many great people and genuine souls on here, and it's a wonderful, helpful, supportive site.
I noticed that more and more posts (that I see) read like this and I find that interesting. Nothing more. x
There are ranges of self validation, but when someone is so uncertain of some issue as some of the threads here address, it suggests to me that this person doesn't have a strong concept of her/him self even at basic levels. I also sense a lack of problem solving capability, or knowledge.
At more complex levels, I can understand that. I think self-worth and respect are mandatory for someone to be at ease with her\himself. But some of these threads address validation at a very basic level.
I know that this person isn't going to be satisfied by whatever I write, b/c I also often see a lack of honest self assessment, as well as an ability to address personal issues, research and find potential solutions, and explore them.
It's sad that some people have so little self confidence, but it's not something that can be solved in an online forum.
For people not in the situation we are, it's always going to be "How DARE you deny mother/MIL anything? My God, she has S4 cancer. Or he just had a stroke or whatever heart operation (or alz/dementia or whatever) Of course your relationship takes second fiddle while everyone goes to HELP! You're a bad person for even bringing it up!"
Few of these people know how it feels to have elders assert their "independence" by not letting their children know what is financially going on but expecting them to be there always. Let alone the next step of them wanting someone to move in with them, or worse yet them with you. Hospice that was assumed to last six months but is going on three years. And so on.
We're not on any major social media. So it takes time for people to find us. When they do, they may feel already societally beat up.
you wrote:
"I hope not, either. And specifically I'm referring to the daily posts from new users that read, "Here's my terrible situation"... and then some form of "What would you do?" "Am I wrong for thinking this?" "Am I a bad daughter?" "How do you feel about this?" "What are your thoughts?" "Am I being selfish" etc. It definitely could be random people who make new accounts, not AC staff."
"There are many of those type of posts on AC and for whatever reason, they read funny to me."
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the more i think about it, the more i agree, that they read funny/weird.
many of them are like fishing for compliments, or obviously writing things to stir up emotions (like "it's all my fault") -- and indeed might very well be fake, just to keep people posting and responding, etc.
there will be trolls, fake messages, etc.
but i really hope it's not a regular thing, with many people, for various reasons, posting fake messages.
hugs!
enjoy the 2nd sunday of 2022!!! :) :) :)
bundle of joy :)