By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington. Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services. APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid. We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour. APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment. You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints. Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or
[email protected] to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights. APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.I agree that: A.I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information"). B.APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink. C.APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site. D.If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records. E.This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year. F.You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
*If I am consenting on behalf of someone else, I have the proper authorization to do so. By clicking Get My Results, you agree to our
Privacy Policy. You also consent to receive calls and texts, which may be autodialed, from us and our customer communities. Your consent is not a condition to using our service. Please visit our
Terms of Use. for information about our privacy practices.
I wouldn’t allow him to rent a room in someone’s house. This isn’t a sensible solution for him.
Look for a permanent solution for his care.
Best wishes to you and your family.
The whole purpose of "in home" Medicaid is to keep the person in their home. Looks like for your FIL with his health issues he needs LTC with Medicaid paying their share. He is past being able to be cared at home or even in a private care home.
I think this is a fraud. Lets say she can collect Medicaid, she cannot charge ur FIL more. He is on Medicaid because he can't afford to pay for his care. My Nephew had a Neurologist that he was paying privately for. When he went on Medicaid, he was told the doctor could not take Medicaid. I asked if he could pay privately. I was told no Medicaid does not allow it.
I am just rambling here and just a train of thought, if she is licenced she would only be able to get what Medicaid allowed and maybe his SS and pension if he has it. Nothing more than that. Just like any LTC facility. She would need to provide all his care and meals.
I personally would run this by his caseworker. I would definitely ask for a licence from the Agency Owner that she can operate a care facility in her home. What will Dad get for his "rent". Will she bill Medicaid and does her license give her the ability to take his SS. Will she be setting up a Personal needs account that a small amt of his SS will got into for him to use for his personal needs. (She can't touch it)
What I'm wondering is what CARE services are being promised to fil for this $$$? Who's taking care of him 24/7 and how does he get back and forth to doctors? Meds? Who's cooking and what meals are served?
I used to work in a Memory Care Assisted Living and we had a gentleman who's daughter was trying to get him placed with us. He was in terrible shape, long overgrown hair, smelly clothes, wheelchair bound and emaciated. The daughter explained that they were talked into moving him into the private home of one of the nurses at a Sunrise Assisted Living where he WAS living. She approached him to give 2 months notice to Sunrise that he was vacating, and she'd "only" charge him $4k a month vs the $5500 he was paying at Sunrise! That has GOT to be a conflict of interest or breaking a non compete rule! Anyway, things went south pretty fast when none of the promises made to this man were kept and he was seriously neglected and underfed. The daughter was looking into filing charges against this nurse for neglecting a demented elder! She did move him into our place in the end, and OUT of that house of horrors.
If it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are its a duck. There's nothing "too good to be true" sounding about this arrangement, it's all suspect and off.
Get dad into a SNF paid by Medicaid and you'll have recourse if something goes wrong. SNFs are monitored by the state for compliance standards. Who's monitoring this owner of the home health agency to insure SHE is compliant? Nobody, chances are, must like nobody was watching the nurse from Sunrise.
Best of luck to you.
We looked at one of these agencies for my mother's private care. The advantage was that if we wanted to move her out of her home, then she would get to keep the caregiver in the group home, at least for a little while, to ease the transition into the new environment. As it turned out, we didn't use them as their prices for both in-home care and if we had placed her, were far higher that other comparable agencies.
That said, if she is licensed, I'd still say no. You don't like the agency and that is really the determining factor.
I think it is unprofessional on many levels.
But if he decides this is what he wants and no one is POA or his Guardian then it would be difficult to stop him.
I would report the agency to Medicaid/Medicare.
Fortunately, you can say no and move on. I'd ditch the agency, find him a Medicaid bed in a nursing home, and call it good.
As the saying goes---if it sounds too good to be true it more than likely is.
Trust your instincts on this, and start looking for a legit facility in your area that accepts Medicaid, and wash your hands of this agency that you already say is unprofessional.
Your FIL deserves better.