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My siblings live over 1500 miles a way, my mom won't affiliate herself with church, nor has "friends" and altho her doc recommended the senior center, my mom said NO WAY. I know what you mean!!!
I am with you on that prayer as well. Keep your education in equal priority as your caregiving and you will see tremendous things happen in your life.
My mom hates the idea that a man from church comes on Wednesdays for a couple of hours; says all he wants is the money; can't understand it is FOR HER but gladly pays the cleaning women! ha ha
When my dad was still here (RIP 9/15/2010) they didn't have "friends" here either so it is what they chose. All in all, it is about choice. And I choose, as my grief counselor taught me, to "live in the living" and continue my education.
I am here to support you and encourage you along with this great group of people I have grown to care for. I am new (a week or two) and I am so happy to know everyone. So much love, support, a safe place to land after a hard day!
I love San Diego, probably won't move from here. It is my "home".
Keep us up to date on your successes ok? And I will do the same.
Unfortunately, I just moved to where my mom lives several months ago. She's never made friends here, hasn't associated herself with a church, and I don't know anyone who can be a care giver or friend to her. (My siblings are 3 hrs and 16 hours away). I've tried to suggest to her to get affiliated with a church, but she rejects it.
I hope your mom, like my mom, is here a year from now when you (and I) graduate.
Thanks for your encouragement!
p.s. San Diego is my favorite city in all of the U.S.A!
Daughter13: go for it! Get that education ... that is something no one can take from you. Take the tests with confidence and clarity and if your mom needs help: church members, neighbors, other family members (oh how I laugh when I write that [for myself]) and do your best!!!! I support you!!! Peg in San Diego
I am thinking if my mom doesn't take HER doc seriously and gain weight SHE will be going to a NH ... I hope not but that is not in my control. My sense of control is providing food, managing and making available her meds, tell her how I feel about this new turn of events, and pray she really hears the doc but if not it is HER choice and some of you have already identified my "pregrieving" and for that I am very thankful. It is as though you embraced what is happening and gave me permission to feel my feelings and fall into a safe place ... this group is incredibly good for me and I thank you immensely!!!
I am definitely not my mom's little girl anymore but telling her I need her still in my life (I would love for her to see me graduate from the university I am in that I have only dreampt about over the last 40 years) has been a tad bit of motivation. Perhaps we just all want to know we are needed.
Good night
Peg in San Diego
I'm about to take a very intense five-week FAA course which is going to take my total attention for probably 15 hours a day. I've been seriously unemployed for 3 years and I need to get into a new career. I'm dreading the next 5 weeks because she's not going to let me study. If I "neglect" her, she'll drink a large bottle of wine and get sick, ask me to take her to the doctor, etc., etc. She's got some dementia, so if I tell her she's sick because she drank too much wine, she'll call me a liar. It's no win!
In addition, she's so negative and critical; everything that comes out of her mouth is negative. I hear the same negative stories and criticisms three or four times a week, in the exact same words. I've heard these stories and criticisms weekly for 10 years. It's so depressing.
I'm so looking forward to taking this class, using my brain, meeting new people, and getting into a new career. I just know with all the positives, there's going to be a lot of negatives.
I'm going to have to let Mom reap the consequences of her own actions because i absolutely have to in order to survive economically, but I don't expect it to be pleasant.
When I first "took over" my dad's life (his words) he pushed, stomped, hammered, etc. every button possible. It was a very rough beginning because I am a very loving, caring, considerate person and take many things to heart. I just couldn't believe the things my dad would say to me. But eventually I would just let it slide off my back and ignore the comments and redirect the conversation. A lot of my sentences would end in (very calmly said) "yes dad, that may be what you think of me, but I love you and I'm still here and have no plans on going anywhere." Many times after I say this, he gets a discouraging look on his face as if he's thinking "damn, that didn't work!”
@Eddie, I've used some similar come backs. My dad told me once he was going to call the police and say that I was abusing him, so that I would be taken out of his home and he would be left alone. I got the phone and brought it to him and asked if he wanted me to dial 911 for him. He decided not to call. Come backs like those seem to shock them and actually get them thinking in reality for a moment, even briefly.
@Momtxi... just let it slide. Do what you know is best for your mom and just redirect the conversations/comments. It's not easy, I know, but you will come to a point where her comments won't bother you at all and all you'll be doing is taking care of business. You might find that you'll have some good conversations with your mom at some point and not one button will even be attempted to be pushed. It could happen.
I can understand and empathize with our ailing parents, they are quickly losing their independence and for some, it is a large, hard pill to swallow. But with patience, understanding, and empathy oh... and PRAYER! PRAYER! & MORE PRAYER! We can all get through this.
Let us know how things work out and if she calms down a bit for you. You can always vent on my wall if needed. :)
And as KeepontryinitM stated "YOU'RE NOT ALONE".
I know what you mean about your husband. My brother stayed after the funeral last year and my mom was trying to make him into my dad. Then he went back home. There is no male here so there is that void.
But I do what I can to "spoil" without turning her "rotten" if you know what I mean. I can't be "spouse" but I can be "daughter" and also spoil her just a little bit.
There are other ways I am sure others would say I spoil her but I chose just one, out of the way, no one else did before way to spoil her today.
And also this ensures (pun intended) that she follow her doctor's regime in gaining weight and taking her meds/mostly vitamins every morning. Her lunch/dinner Ensure and meds (just tylenol) are important but not as important as the morning med intake.
Maybe, jennie, fine one little thing that only you can do for her that "spoils" her without turning it into a "rotten" thing if you know what I mean.
I would be appalled if anyone did my husband's laundry. Currently not married I don't have to think about that, but seriously set boundaries on that (maybe he can keep a hamper in your room/closet where she can't get to it). That's just too weird for me but maybe others have a different perspective on this that sheds some more compassionate light on this subject.
Hugs, Peg in San Diego
"Dear Abby" said something interesting to day about complaining that I think applies here. "because she is limited in her activities, so her world has shrunk to nothing beyond herself. How sad for her."
I just tell her "Well one of us is going to half to be, unhappy, or inconvenienced, and it's not always going to be me"
It does help to know you're not alone.
My brother is the same way ... his you-know-what does not stink ... everyone else should do what he says because he is the "golden boy". I don't bow to him either. What makes me strong in this (not always but most of the time) is counseling, family and friends who support me, and sites like this that encourage me to stand up for me and not ask "how high" when these people say "jump".
I too have that sister only she is "big guns" ha ha. If my mom doesn't want to do what the doc recommended (adding ensure: found her pouring it down the drain last night) then I call my sister, she calls my mom and (without admitting it) works my issue into their conversation ha ha. Unbeknownst to my mom, sister has advocated for the exact thing I was trying to focus on.
My brother on the other hand, has his own agenda and is not wired for nurturing nor encouragement. So I cannot and will not involve him anymore in the day to day struggles I have with my mom.
I often wonder, speaking of pushing buttons, and thanks Momtxi for posting this today, if my mom is subconsciously losing weight and sabotaging her health so Golden Boy will come out here (he lives 1700 miles east of here~ heck we are in CA, everything is east from here ha ha). She and he have had an unhealthy relationship for years, she resents that he has chosen a girlfriend that is more important than she is (and a generation younger than he is but that's a separate issue for another site right? LOL). I have wondered for days if she is not interested in gaining weight so he will come out and "rescue" this "damsel in distress" ... her knight in shining armor so to speak.
Then that would me, dear Momtxi ... she is pushing HIS buttons as well.
Your post has opened my eyes to my own situation and I am sorry if I have not addressed yours adequately. I thank you with all my heart for posting; it has clarified a few things for me in my own dilemma. I hope to receive some feedback re if anyone also recognizes my mom's ploy for attention regarding my brother. After all, she was sad and disappointed when he didn't come to visit her in May for her birthday (said he was coming, changed his mind at the last minute). He also has issues in that he moved my mom out of this house (that she shared with my dad for 10 years) into an independent facility, she hated it there, she and I moved back into this house 6 months ago ... since then her weight has dropped 7#s ... she a very petite woman so that affected her body mass quite a bit. Her doc recommended many ways to "gain weight" and as the doc said "I would hate to lose you too".
Eating disorders affect the elderly too right? I am not that well informed about these disorders ... any ideas are more than welcomed.
@Lilliput: some days I feel like an "errand" person or driver and one day I confronted my mom saying "you treat me like a slave" (something I knew she could relate to as there were times in her childhood she has told me she felt the same way) and that she is happy when talking to my brother and sister on the phone then she complains about what I do or do not do. Bottom line? Set boundaries and three years later is not too long a time ... set them slowly today and with meaning.
And yes Eddie: my mom does the same thing. "I want to be with your Dad" ... ok, go then! I know it is not what we really mean but that manipulative ploy is hurtful and if we need to find humor to get by...then let's laugh!
Peg in San Diego
She'd play sick often, saying she was going to die and praying to Beelzebub to take her with him. The first year I'd beg her not to talk like that, then I realized people like her have the nasty habit of surviving their children. So I'd say "Tell him to hurry up. I have to get up early in the morning;" or "I can call a cab for you. That way you'll get there faster."
By our 3rd year together the buttons she constantly played with had disappeared. ... So have the people who truly cared about her. She pushed them away.
I found that calm conversations work better than trying to get my Mom to do something she doesn't want to do (and will not do.) That way, I save my sanity.
Two things are absolute: You cannnot change her and you cannot make her happy.
You did not say if you were a son or daughter, but this article may help. Search: Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers.
good luck