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I ended up with a debit card a couple of months ago, when my credit card renewal went down south to the PO box there, and activating it up here in Alice Springs was not working. The debit card has a limit of $600, which is more than I need for local shopping. I’m thinking seriously about using it permanently, just because it’s so much safer if I lose my wallet (where the card has a limit of $10,000). I tell DH if I’ve spent a lot, and he raises the limit. It is NOT ‘financial control/ abuse’, and it’s working fine for us!
I’m so sorry you had to take the abuse. Be kind to yourself.
Although “self defense” is an instinct, remain calm. Respond to her with quiet whispers to diffuse her outrage.
If her behavior continues, talk to her doctor. She may pose an emotional or physical danger to others around her.
You did the right thing although she will never see that.
I am sorry she hit you.
Feel free to walk away from seeing her while she is being a jerk.
You did a kind thing for her and do not deserve the treatment.
I agree with the posts to just call staff and see how she is and not see her.
It is a logical consequence to her rudeness.
she needs to find better use of her time than to shop for what she doesnt need.
Since the staff at the AL now know you, you can always call them to check and see how she is doing. You might want to have a contingency plan developed which may mean finding out if the current AL has a memory care unit in case her dementia increases to the point where she can't be managed in the AL unit (they aren't going to want their staff getting hit either!) If finances will be an issue down the road, you may want to investigate now and see if her AL accepts Medicaid. Not sure how old Mom is but you don't want to get 3-4 years down the road, discover she had run out of funds for private pay and they won't accept Medicaid.
Wishing you luck and peace on this journey. Know that you are not alone.
My Uncle called me last night to let me know my mother called him telling him how he's got to help her, that I told the facility that she has dementia when it's just her heart (who knew Doctors just took people's word for it?) , how I stole her money (all whopping $15K of it), that she needs to go to the Bank and get everything reversed. Obviously he shut it all down but it's simply wild to me how she can forget everything else- but keep to this particular horrific story of me.
Especially given if it weren't for me, she would have been put in a psychiatric ward or a state run facility after the scene she put on in the hospital. Does she see any other family or friends running to her aid? Not one. No visitors. NOBODY.
Going grey might be better for me - just pay her bills, give her spending money - and keep away. I have a young family and I refuse to let her impede on their happiness or mine. Especially when she has done nothing - even prior to her diagnosis - to foster loving relationships with anyone other than having them visit her at her home.
Please pardon this free flow of thoughts that may seem all over the place - truth be told, they are as I reflect and find myself come to these conclusions. Thank you all again for your insight and perspectives.
You did the right thing taking control of her finances. The most important thing is making sure her care is being paid for.
Looking at the situation from her perspective she sees thieving and stealing on your part because she no longer has access to any money. Now factor in that she's in a secure AL facility and cannot come and go anymore and she will see it basically as jail. She will blame you for depriving her of her liberty too. Of course you did the right thing but on the other hand, you're the one who did these things and that's where all mom's anger and rage is coming from.
I think you'd do well to as they say, 'go grey rock' for a while. Limit your contact with her or have none at all. Maybe there's a way for you to be able to allow her small sums of money. Like a pre-paid credit or Visa gift card with limited amounts she can spend. Or if the AL take the residents on shopping trips (some of them do) give them a certain amount of cash that she can spend then ask for receipts.
It maybe time to shut off your mother's credit cards so that she has money to stay where she is,
I too am an only child w/most of my 84+ YO mom's siblings and friends having passed on. My mom has one living brother (81) left and he too has had to go low contact, letting the repeated calls just go to voice mail. My mom's phone receives texts, so when the call after call, after call starts in the evenings (a "sundowning" symptom for her) we have found it best to just text saying, "will call next week." Adding more time in between interactions/calls we have found to be helpful as a stress reducer on our end.
Thankfully years ago, I had structured a POA with my mom and I was added to her bank accounts almost ten years prior. Taking away the credit cards, check book, consolidating accounts and debts took almost a year; but it was all necessary. With my mom, I just did it as it had to be done in preparation for "spend down" so she could qualify for Medicaid, which is now done. She lived with my husband and kids the prior 22 years, so thankfluly there was no home to sell or pack up as part of this process.
For my mom, the dementia at first impacted her judgment/reasoning more than short term memory (that came later). The number of financial scams she fell for as well as writing a check to any charity that sent her anything and gambling expenses was a total sock. She had been frugal but once dementia set in there was no filter, no ability to understand what was a financial scam; no inhibition from buying everything advertised on TV especially those "you have 2 minutes to buy at the discounted with the time clock ticking down" ads; sending 3 checks to the same charity in the same week; and, the "if I just play another round, I'll hit the jackpot" mentality resulted in huge financial losses.
She is furious that she is now in a nursing home (she's been there a year now following a 2-week hospital stay). She is furious that she has no access to her credit cards, check book, etc. She asks for "her wallet" -- meaning credit cards/check book -- over and over. I just say sorry, "I will bring it when I have time," or "oh sorry, I forgot it." For the most part at this point I have had to go no contact because I cannot take the tantrums, the crying fits, the awful things she says, the crazy sundowning behavior, etc., etc., etc.
Dementia robs them of their ability to understand and reason in addition to loosing their memory and it sets in motion a host of behavioral issues that yes can become impossible to deal with. It is all so hard, sad and overwhelming at times. Doing what must be done -- such as taking over on finances, taking away credit cards and the check book, getting the care they need in a nursing home, assisted living or memory facility -- AND finding ways to "turn off" things like your cell phone, going low or no contact from time to time; and creating space to care for yourself and family is a MUST.
I'm in the same boat. Unfortunately, her narcissistic tendencies have driven everyone away so it's just me- she has no relationship with my older half-sister, barely speaks to any family and has only "facebook" type friends- none that actually "show up" but express their "love" on social media.
I appreciate the advice. My husband and I are taking our five year old away this weekend and I'm going to steer clear for awhile. I wish you well also!
When dementia is involved, there's no rhyme or reason to the elder's behavior. I know, my mother is 94.5 with advanced dementia and there are many, many, many days I want to throw my hands up in the air and walk away too. Except then there would be nobody for her to vent to at all, since I'm the only 'child' and her entire family is deceased. Sigh. So I plug along and do whatever I have to do for her, in spite of all the accusations hurled at me, all the nonsense, and all the threats of her 'killing herself' and on and on. She lives in a Memory Care ALF 4 miles away, thank God, but there is still a lot for us children to handle for them, that's for sure.
Make sure to take time for YOU in all the madness, and turn your phone off when necessary. I know my mother loves to blow my phone up and call and call and CALL, especially during dinner, so I put it on silent these days so I can at least eat in peace. As the dementia progresses, things get worse and worse, unfortunately. One day at a time, right? Wishing you the best of luck with a difficult situation.